tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7599829348521871950.post5301028242003756506..comments2023-06-03T08:56:16.517-07:00Comments on The Linux Works: It Seems I Won't Be Writing For Linux Advocates After AllCaitlyn Martinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08066943172339740116noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7599829348521871950.post-3679432873760755232013-12-12T13:06:41.288-08:002013-12-12T13:06:41.288-08:00"In fairness to Mr. Schmitz I'll point ou..."In fairness to Mr. Schmitz I'll point out that I can be very opinionated and I do defend my views strongly" ....I'll say!! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7599829348521871950.post-17598317660126441562013-06-04T23:15:57.980-07:002013-06-04T23:15:57.980-07:00I agree with your approach entirely. I also admir...I agree with your approach entirely. I also admire your determination to not make it personal. But there is tendency on the site owner's part to feel that his ideas are absolute and every body else are "chumps" (in his words). LA is not at all about Linux advocacy, and more about a man's almost single minded obsessions. I was one of the early donors to his appeal...but now find the site irritating and irrelevant, and am only accidentally taken there by posts on LXer.saiftynethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00273722448078248606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7599829348521871950.post-78924150115367421302013-05-28T16:36:27.785-07:002013-05-28T16:36:27.785-07:00You made the right decision. It's very unfort...You made the right decision. It's very unfortunate that this Linux Advocates site even exists, as it certainly doesn't look to live up to its name. It looks to be just a thinly-veiled anti-systemd propaganda site and just from the links to it I've seen posted on LXer, looks to be very full of negativity. I wish Mr. Schmitz would have his ability to post directly to LXer revoked, because he's just using it to direct clicks to his site, while posting all sorts of irrelevant stuff that shouldn't be linked from LXer. If he wants to use "Linux Advocates" as an unfortunate name for his blog about whatever, he can do that, but he shouldn't be spamming LXer with it too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7599829348521871950.post-37244441303315229432013-05-28T12:35:58.695-07:002013-05-28T12:35:58.695-07:00Caitlyn, if you ever want to guest post to increas...Caitlyn, if you ever want to guest post to increase your traffic and/or portfolio, you have an open invitation to 'Yet Another Linux Blog' :D http://linux-blog.org<br /><br />I'm one of the oldest (and recently, the stalest) linux blog's out there and I like to think my credibility is pretty good :D<br /><br />Anyways, as the saying goes, plenty of fish in the sea...you'll definitely be able to find somewhere to land.devnethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07644844759013285692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7599829348521871950.post-21031821017858542942013-05-27T10:55:08.181-07:002013-05-27T10:55:08.181-07:00If you don't know what or where to write, you ...If you don't know what or where to write, you can always add the odd HOWTO here: http://docs.slackware.com/<br /><br />:o)Kiki Novakhttp://www.microlinux.frnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7599829348521871950.post-33910557663684974662013-05-26T16:17:28.630-07:002013-05-26T16:17:28.630-07:00There are different people in that group. And such...There are different people in that group. And such communities sometimes are not communities, since the moderator or founder leads the way. This rarely is all for good...<br />However, I would never mix people like Katherine Noyes (there's nothing wrong with "blogosphere" :-P ) and many other Linux users, fans, writers or not, with what Dietrich has done. He'd become very partial, lately. It's a pity.<br />We do not agree 100%, but I like and enjoy Katherine's, Steven Vaughan-Nichols' and Carla Schoder's texts... and Catlyn's :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7599829348521871950.post-25810926414182796112013-05-26T13:50:22.817-07:002013-05-26T13:50:22.817-07:00I have deleted exactly one comment on this thread;...I have deleted exactly one comment on this thread; a really nasty personal attack on Mr. Schmitz that just wasn't called for. The last thread, where I recommended Red Hat Enterprise Linux for business, hasn't needed moderation at all. In my experience it's usually best to let people have their say unless the comment is way, way, way over the top. Caitlyn Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08066943172339740116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7599829348521871950.post-20414797185761246792013-05-26T13:02:21.577-07:002013-05-26T13:02:21.577-07:00Hi, I'm one of the people censored. I too bel...Hi, I'm one of the people censored. I too believe in editorial control of comments and don't think they are a place to host personal attacks. I was also excited to be invited to the Linux Advocates community at G+. So, I'm mortified that Mr. Schmitz deleted one of my comments and called me unprofessional and rude. I quit the community after that. <br /><br />Later, I asked him what his goals for the site are and got no satisfactory answer.<br /><br />https://plus.google.com/u/0/113579520393333767984/posts/6XQR4AH5DWt<br />https://plus.google.com/u/0/113579520393333767984/posts/CkJ7sFAWCry<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03064164935031251540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7599829348521871950.post-36560821968060429542013-05-26T12:10:38.375-07:002013-05-26T12:10:38.375-07:00What they are trying to do? Make some money. The g...What they are trying to do? Make some money. The guy figured that tabloid-style writing and purposeful controversy generates lots of clicks. If you don't like it, just don't click. They don't care if you like or hate them as long as you click. So, vote with your clicks :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7599829348521871950.post-87378636716598364232013-05-26T09:23:57.290-07:002013-05-26T09:23:57.290-07:00"In fairness to Mr. Schmitz I'll point ou..."In fairness to Mr. Schmitz I'll point out that I can be very opinionated and I do defend my views strongly and engage in debate with my readers."<br /><br />I think the KEY difference is that, rather than engaging in debate with his readers, Mr Schmitz tends to stifle it. We ALL have opinions, but it is how we handle those opinions that matters. I am oh so happy that Mr Schmitz is reconsidering his position on systemd and I hope it means that he is becoming more willing to truly engage in debate with those whom he is in disagreement with. There are a lot of bright young people doing Linux development who are coming up with very promising, but as yet half baked ideas. People like Mr Schmitz need to be challenging the community to fulfill those dreams by refining those inventions rather than just attempting to shout them down from a self appointed bully pulpit. He CAN make his point in an open environment free of intimidation and manipulation. My hope is that he is moving in this direction and will move further in this direction. For reference, I am the author of the original post. I don't know Mr Schmitz personally, nor to I have anything against him at all on a personal level. I am just an observer on the sidelines expressing my honest gut reaction to his apparent MO based on past observations.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7599829348521871950.post-595996337115078602013-05-26T04:13:05.135-07:002013-05-26T04:13:05.135-07:00At first I didn't know what to think about lin...At first I didn't know what to think about linux advocates, hey anything to bring more attention to Linux right?. But it seems that all the articles have the intent of drawing outrage amongst users.<br /><br />I honestly can't figure out what they are trying to do over there. Then after his continuous spamming of /. I realize now that all they are doing is bringing a bad name to Linux.<br /><br />I'm genuinely embarrassed and I hope the community realizes they do not represent users of Linux. I just wish they would stop, it's really hurting the community and people whom wish to use Linux.<br /><br />I think you were right to turn down the Job. Seems like every week we see two new articles about how Microsoft's 'Skype' is spying on you and how Windows in general is a platform for Backdoors to a secret Government office.Mike Fretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05351858179310568913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7599829348521871950.post-11832152803401119842013-05-26T00:45:39.076-07:002013-05-26T00:45:39.076-07:00When you first announced your possible involvement...When you first announced your possible involvement, it seemed to me a good idea, to bring more balanced journalism and a more rounded approach to article, which would improve the Linux Advocates site. While the short opinion pieces usually on that site meet their provocative intent in the short term, there's not much there to keep a free software user going back to it, and certainly little depth. Your contribution might have altered that sense of short-termism. However, it seemed to me that there was real risk to you and your reputation too, and your subsequent decision is very respectable. To paraphrase a notorious UK tabloid headline, "Debian Wheezy ate my hamster" wears a bit think after a while... ;-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7599829348521871950.post-14492684815598470442013-05-26T00:31:22.302-07:002013-05-26T00:31:22.302-07:00I totally agree with you @Caitlyn and I do support...I totally agree with you @Caitlyn and I do support your decision regarding all this.<br /><br />I never kinda liked the workflow of linuxadvocates[dot]com ... it smelled so closed & proprietary for sometime now...<br /><br />take careViruSzZhttp://d.stavrovski.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7599829348521871950.post-63664860689029238852013-05-25T20:19:05.401-07:002013-05-25T20:19:05.401-07:00Thank you, Steve. I've actually been contacte...Thank you, Steve. I've actually been contacted by quite a few Linux and FOSS site owners who want me to write for them. I'm flattered and truly grateful for the offers and I'll be considering them over the next few days.<br /><br />Specific software wouldn't have bothered me if it was FOSS and respected my privacy. Zemanta is proprietary and is mining data.Caitlyn Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08066943172339740116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7599829348521871950.post-71758113162052159552013-05-25T20:18:52.420-07:002013-05-25T20:18:52.420-07:00This article has cost you yet another author, Mr. ...This article has cost you yet another author, Mr. Schmitz. I'll keep my articles in traditional How-to's, and post them in places where there are no Microshaft style eula's.<br /><br />Caitlyn, have you tried lxer.com? Posting a link to your article on thier site can generate a bit of traffic, and it's mostly Linux and Unix gear-heads that would be reading it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7599829348521871950.post-22369592316945092172013-05-25T17:44:17.486-07:002013-05-25T17:44:17.486-07:00We are happy to publish Linux articles without req...We are happy to publish Linux articles without requiring authors to install specific software.<br /><br />Kind regards,<br />Steve Emms<br /><br />LinuxLinks.com<br />http://www.linuxlinks.com/Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02790456779959113496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7599829348521871950.post-78153510376486368382013-05-25T17:40:29.768-07:002013-05-25T17:40:29.768-07:00obvious troll, no?obvious troll, no?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7599829348521871950.post-55535826578059668662013-05-25T14:20:06.959-07:002013-05-25T14:20:06.959-07:00Yes that article indeed showed he has some integri...Yes that article indeed showed he has some integrity too bad many comments that mentioned that among other things got deleted in previous articlesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7599829348521871950.post-36953684924342016092013-05-25T11:05:08.680-07:002013-05-25T11:05:08.680-07:00Dietrich deletes comments he does not agree with t...Dietrich deletes comments he does not agree with to shape his narrative and has banned people for mention those he hates, like <a href="http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2005/1114/128sidebara.html" rel="nofollow">Maureen O'Gara</a>. You can see what happened when Roy Schestowitz said Fabian Scherschel wasn't a troll, <a href="http://www.linuxadvocates.com/2013/04/of-trolls-individual-accountability-and.html#comment-865797270" rel="nofollow">here</a>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7599829348521871950.post-38779825256537956722013-05-25T10:33:18.533-07:002013-05-25T10:33:18.533-07:00Huh? I have always allowed dissenting views on my...Huh? I have always allowed dissenting views on my websites/blogs and that is not about to change. I have never deleted a comment for mentioning a specific person. Why would I hate the people you mentioned?<br /><br />What I said was that I'm wondering if my own style is too combative at times, not that I am planning to emulate Mr. Schmitz in any way, shape or form.Caitlyn Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08066943172339740116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7599829348521871950.post-54810391415948442872013-05-25T10:20:02.721-07:002013-05-25T10:20:02.721-07:00Does this mean you'll be deleting comments you...Does this mean you'll be deleting comments you don't agree with and banning people for mentioning people you hate, like Maureen O'Gara and Fabian Scherschel?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7599829348521871950.post-75526647363669178522013-05-25T10:07:14.806-07:002013-05-25T10:07:14.806-07:00I can't respect anyone that uses the word &quo...I can't respect anyone that uses the word "blogosphere" in every post they make.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7599829348521871950.post-57080175649281768062013-05-25T09:54:42.656-07:002013-05-25T09:54:42.656-07:00Dear Linux Advocate,
Money doesn't grow on tr...Dear Linux Advocate,<br /><br />Money doesn't grow on trees. And, Linux Advocates is growing. Naturally, we anticipate operating costs and hope to be able to meet them.<br /><br />But, any amount you feel you are able to donate in support of our ongoing work will be most surely appreciated and put to very good use. Your contributions keep Linux Advocates growing.<br /><br />Show your support by making a donation today.<br /><br /><br />Thank you.<br /><br />Dietrich T. Schmitz<br />Linux Advocates, Owner<br /><br />http://www.linuxadvocates.com/p/support.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7599829348521871950.post-67751752414636151572013-05-25T09:45:31.032-07:002013-05-25T09:45:31.032-07:00Thanks to everyone who posted kind words of suppor...Thanks to everyone who posted kind words of support. It is appreciated. I'm also taking some of the comments about Mr. Schmitz's style of advocacy to heart and, as I mentioned above, reexamining my own style of advocacy and my own interaction with my readers and the wider Linux community. Hopefully some good will come of this.Caitlyn Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08066943172339740116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7599829348521871950.post-58110853691102454392013-05-25T09:43:33.990-07:002013-05-25T09:43:33.990-07:00In fairness I'm a strong advocate for Red Hat ...In fairness I'm a strong advocate for Red Hat as well and I agree with a lot of Dietrich Schmitz's comments about them. I do appreciate your kind words and I hope to learn from this experience in terms of how I advocate for Linux and how I defend my views. Let's just say I'm reexamining my own attitudes and my own approach to my readers.Caitlyn Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08066943172339740116noreply@blogger.com